He thinks that we're finished/He thinks that we're done/He thinks that it's over/His battle is won

[snogged]

Last night in Wisconsin, four Republican senators out of six held onto their seats, including the one in my district. It absolutely broke my heart that we didn't manage to get the three we were hoping for, but I knew going in that we were running uphill in heavily Republican districts to make a change happen.

That said, I'm proud of Senators-Elect Jessica King and Jennifer Schilling. I'm also proud of my city and county who did vote for Dem. Fred Clark (60%-40%).

I truly believe this fight isn't over yet.


I also truly believe that there are some really stupid people out there. I read a comment on an article this morning posted by a man who believed that the "big unions tried to buy the election with their money and their lies."

Because I'm non-confrontational (for the most part) when it comes to online forums, I held my tongue even though I wanted to point out that a gazillion* more dollars were spent by PAC groups and the Koch brothers to ensure that their Republican candidates won. Also, does this man not realize that Republicans represent money and corporations? I mean, yeah, they can say all they want that they're not going to raise taxes, but they're also going to cut millions from social programs so they can toss it back to the greedy fish mouths of the rich who do nothing to create jobs in this economy.

Ugh.

I hate stupid.

I also hate that I will probably never un-cover why someone would believe that way because no matter how hard I try, I can't seem to have a civil conversation with someone who is a conservative. That said, if anyone on my flist happens to be on that side of the coin, I'd be happy to try.

*Let's call it an estimate.

Comments

[velvetwhip.livejournal.com]

For the life of me, I do not understand anyone who is not currently wealthy voting Republican. That party cares nothing for the average American except to turn them into an army of serfs.


Gabrielle

[snogged.livejournal.com]

I don't get it either.

[secondmezzanine.livejournal.com]

I agreeeee with Gabrielle.

*Let's call it an estimate.
LOL. I love you, snogged.

And I totally get your indignation, especially since you had a lot invested in this election. I just don't understand people-- and I have a really hard time not getting involved in online "discussions," shall we call them.

[snogged.livejournal.com]

I don't understand people either.

[sbmshaneomaniac.livejournal.com]

I've spent time recently at the local Drop-In-Center for mental health, and found myself accosted with people bashing the President, and saying that the Democrats need to get out of Washington, etc...

I couldn't believe it. I was shocked that the people there, most of whom are dirt poor and living in group homes, would badmouth the party that is fighting for THEM. Honestly if the Republicans, and especially the teabaggers had their way, half of them would be on the friggin street. I tried my best to give the lecture of how "A President is only as strong as his Congress" or "Do you actually watch the news? Fox doesn't count..." but I got nowhere. I learned a valuable lesson that day. Don't argue with stupid. You will not win.

[snogged.livejournal.com]

It's a shame that people don't understand what's best for them.

[sbmshaneomaniac.livejournal.com]

In the defense of the democrats, they DID try to put the tax issue on the table... and the GOP basically made the point a dealbreaker. The only reason there was no raise in taxes for anyone was that the republicans refused to negotiate with any plan that did.

[snogged.livejournal.com]

LOL.
Only you would quote Snyder in a politically-charged environment. :D Love it.

But as heartbreaking as it was to lose in my district, I'm still proud that of the six recalls on the Repubs, we did win two of them (double the success rate of recalls in Wisconsin.) I'm a bit nervous about next week when two of the Democratic senators are up for recall. One woman (Kim Simac) heads up the Northwoods Tea Party, writes children's books promoting their protection under the 2nd amendment, and is generally a lunatic. Apparently...the district doesn't see her that way though as the press is reporting that election will be a close one.

[hisui-ryoshi.livejournal.com]

I live in the Central Valley of California and it's intensely conservative. One of my friends found a quote from Obama in 2006 when they were talking about raising the debt ceiling. He stated that for the US Government to even be at that point it had already failed. Anyway, that quote in relation to the New York Times op ed piece about Obama this last Sunday really made be realize something.

Obama is an idealist. And you can not govern on ideals. You just can't. The op ed story talked about how Obama needs a story to tell and I think it's true.I like Obama, and I do think he's doing the best (although not very good) job that he can. However, with that said I think the Democrats are screwed in 2012 and the nation shortly thereafter when the Tea Party crazies take over.

I'm really sorry things didn't work out better in Wisconsin.

[snogged.livejournal.com]

I like Obama too, but he's not a particularly strong negotiator, especially lately.

And I hope I die first before the Tea Party takes over.

[kallie-kat.livejournal.com]

I have come across two separate thoughts on why people go conservative. Either they think that if they worship at the altar of big business, then some of that money will rub off on them, or else they truly believe in the religious and social aspects of the republican party and are able to ignore everything else that is wrong with it.

Oh, and then there are the ones whose parents raised them that way, who just aren't smart enough to think for themselves and find it easier to parrot everything their parents and the conservative politicians say. So, yeah, three different thoughts. LOL.

[snogged.livejournal.com]

But the religious aspect is actually what gets me most.

These are the people who will preach about putting Jesus back into the public sphere, but they don't pout for a second when social programs (that Jesus would totally endorse, BTW) have their funding slashed.